Ep 1x8 Desperate Souls...Discussion?
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abc_onceuponAre we doing episode discussions in this comm? What did you all think of it?
It was a terrific ep, and I'm glad we got some backstory on my favorite character--Rumpelstiltskin--but I found a lot of loose ends in it, and perhaps this was on purpose.
1.) So, Rumpel has a son. We know from inference that he has not followed him into Storybrooke--or at least, he's not with Mr. Gold. The episode ends with Rumpel saving his son from the soldiers, and it's left there.
2.) Why is Rumpel so terrified at receiving The Dark One's power? What is so inherently awful about it? He seemed pretty happy to have it, when he saved his son. I'm sure I've missed something, but I don't quite get it.
3.) I'm not so sure I buy Mr. Gold's story about having Emma stand up to him being part of his plan, all along. He seemed rather upset in the auditorium...though that may have been part of the act. On the other hand, he is pretty much her "frenemy," now, and she still owes him a favor. So how is the Emma/Mr. Gold relationship so different from Sheriff Graham/Regina's? After all, she was holding something over his head, too. Or rather, in his chest.
4.) Who is "THE DARK ONE?" Is this another LOST-style conundrum? He's not the devil, though he does seem to strike deals for souls.
5.) Rumpel seems to have a reason for continuously wanting to bargain for children. I'm sure it has something to do with the loss of his son, whenever that's going to be revealed. Perhaps it also ties in with certain speculation surrounding Regina.
OK, that's all I've got. I'm guessing it's fair to warn that any comments may also be spoilery.
It was a terrific ep, and I'm glad we got some backstory on my favorite character--Rumpelstiltskin--but I found a lot of loose ends in it, and perhaps this was on purpose.
1.) So, Rumpel has a son. We know from inference that he has not followed him into Storybrooke--or at least, he's not with Mr. Gold. The episode ends with Rumpel saving his son from the soldiers, and it's left there.
2.) Why is Rumpel so terrified at receiving The Dark One's power? What is so inherently awful about it? He seemed pretty happy to have it, when he saved his son. I'm sure I've missed something, but I don't quite get it.
3.) I'm not so sure I buy Mr. Gold's story about having Emma stand up to him being part of his plan, all along. He seemed rather upset in the auditorium...though that may have been part of the act. On the other hand, he is pretty much her "frenemy," now, and she still owes him a favor. So how is the Emma/Mr. Gold relationship so different from Sheriff Graham/Regina's? After all, she was holding something over his head, too. Or rather, in his chest.
4.) Who is "THE DARK ONE?" Is this another LOST-style conundrum? He's not the devil, though he does seem to strike deals for souls.
5.) Rumpel seems to have a reason for continuously wanting to bargain for children. I'm sure it has something to do with the loss of his son, whenever that's going to be revealed. Perhaps it also ties in with certain speculation surrounding Regina.
OK, that's all I've got. I'm guessing it's fair to warn that any comments may also be spoilery.
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THE FOLLOWING CONTAINS POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOR FUTURE EPISODES/SPECULATION
Date: 2012-01-11 05:19 am (UTC)Here's why: there is a stranger that arrives in town, he has ties to Emma/Emma's past = possibly Henry's father = the actor's name will be Eion Bailey? Like Bae? :P Maybe I am just reading too much into it. But he DOES look like an older Bae in my opinion:
Re: THE FOLLOWING CONTAINS POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOR FUTURE EPISODES/SPECULATION
Date: 2012-01-11 06:41 pm (UTC)Re: THE FOLLOWING CONTAINS POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOR FUTURE EPISODES/SPECULATION
Date: 2012-01-11 09:00 pm (UTC)Again, I find it hard to believe that Rumpelstiltkin's "son" would be around in Storybrooke and would not have aged. I find it a stretch that they would make him Henry's father. I think people just like speculating and guessing about things, which is fine, but let's see how it goes on the show. :)
Now him being Henry's father, could be the case. Though it says Emma is suspicious of him, so does that mean she doesn't know who he is? He is called "the stranger".
Re: THE FOLLOWING CONTAINS POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOR FUTURE EPISODES/SPECULATION
Date: 2012-01-11 09:30 pm (UTC)Re: THE FOLLOWING CONTAINS POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOR FUTURE EPISODES/SPECULATION
Date: 2012-01-14 03:59 am (UTC)I was thinking his son wouldn't be in Storybrooke in the first place. Or there is some clause that he could leave. Considering that Rumple created the curse originally he had to have sent his son away - it seems clear that the royals don't know about him, or they would have used him for their own purposes.
That is if Bae isn't dead :(
Re: THE FOLLOWING CONTAINS POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOR FUTURE EPISODES/SPECULATION
Date: 2012-01-17 11:46 am (UTC)It all depends on how long ago Rumpelstiltskin became the Dark One and when he created the curse. Because his son would age as well, I think. Unless he has some kind of power too.