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[madwitch58.livejournal.com]

this has been playing around my head for a few days. i know no one can leave storybrook, but is that leave as in move to anther place or leave as in go to go on vacation. i know Henry left but he had to return. could someone else leave as long as they returned? if so that would enplane how Mr. Gold was able to get Henry.

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[dontbitethesun.livejournal.com]

I agree with the people who have said that there's no evidence to say that Mr. Gold actually left Storybrook. It's more likely he arranged for someone on the outside to bring Henry in. It's my understanding that none of the fairytale characters can leave, but of course the show hasn't really broken it down exactly yet so anything is possible and we might find out later that this assumption is wrong.

[nikki4noo.livejournal.com]

Pretty much agreeing with what you have said here.

Henry can leave, he just thinks he has to come back too. Bad things didn't happen to him in order to make him stay in Storybrook, like it has for others.

It appears so far that Emma can't leave. There is no proof that Mr. Gold can leave, even if he has more powers. I think that he and Regina are a little unaware of their history. The look in the episode when he says "please" and Regina agrees where she had previously defied him said to me that they didn't know about their past. I suspect they are starting to believe that Henry's theories are valid, while publicly saying the opposite.

I am waiting to see Ruby's story, which I think will give us more information. We know she wants to leave, but has their been physical things stopping her as well as her love for her grandmother?

[dontbitethesun.livejournal.com]

The writers (and IMO, the show itself) have indicated that Regina definitely knows what's going on curse-wise, but you're right about the please scene - it seemed that she didn't remember the deal she'd made with Rumple in the fairytale world, so I'm wondering if maybe her memories aren't complete.

There's a bunch of storylines I'm looking forward to, Ruby's included. I've been reading lots of spoilers and it all looks so interesting. There's one character the writers have hinted at that really makes me question who can come and who can go, but I don't want to spoil anyone who doesn't what to know.

[nikki4noo.livejournal.com]

Thanks for that.

My personal head canon atm is that she is slightly aware, but with a lot of gaps. Personally I can see her thinking that she isn't the Evil Queen, but someone else.

I'm waiting for the characters to start to twig about their names having meanings. I really need to know the Sheriff's first name, as Graham only means "grey homestead" which doesn't give much of a clue about his other identity. I can see that him being the Hunstman makes sense. I have heard some people think that Billy the mechanic is the Big Bad Wolf, but what if he is the Billy Goat Gruff?

[dontbitethesun.livejournal.com]

Ohh... I like the idea that Regina thinks she was someone else from fairytale land. I wonder who it would be.

Huh, I hadn't given any thought to how their modern names fit their characters. I can't wait to find out who the Sheriff is. I have my suspicions and I want to see if I'm close or not. I think it would be more interesting if they try to trick us with a few characters, like Billy being Billy Goat Gruff, instead of making everything really obvious.

[nikki4noo.livejournal.com]

All the names do have meanings :D I know dizilla and I have started to work on a list. I should tell her to get it sorted and post it up, so we can keep track of the names etc.

But this is what we know so far:
Mary Margaret Blanchard - Blanchard means "white". The Mary Margaret is a homage to the two different 'princesses' that are thought to have inspired the snow white tale.
David Nolan - David means "beloved" Nolan means "Champion"
Regina Mills - "Queen" "of the Mill"
Emma - the deserving,the worthy, the diligent, whole, universal
Henry - estate ruler, ruler of an enclosure, home ruler
Archie Hopper - "genuine, bold" Hooper is an obvious reference to cricket
Sheriff Graham - "gravelly homestead, abode" (I think he is the Hunstman)
Mr. Gold - references Rumple's love of gold
Ruby - "red gemstone, jewel, a ruby jewel"
Leroy - "the king, proud, selfish" - which is interesting about Grumpy!
Kathryn Nolan - "pure" which is interesting considering the self-absorbed character she was in fairy tale land!

I love that the writers have done this background search about the characters and their names. There are too many of them to fit so 'well' for it to be a fluke, it is obviously deliberate. :) I know some people think that Billy might be the Big Bad Wolf, but now I think about it, him being Billy Goat Gruff could be fun too!

[dontbitethesun.livejournal.com]

Oh yeah, you two should post it up!

And now that I look at your lovely list, I agree, it does look very planned out and not at all a fluke. And here I had thought they were all random!

[middlegirl.livejournal.com]

One more for your list:

Ashley - "from the ash tree field" but "ash" is also a synonym for "cinder" (as in Cinderella).

That's one name that took me a while to realize why the writers picked it, but once I figured it out it floored me. These writers are being so fantastically clever with these names.

[nikki4noo.livejournal.com]

They are! Thanks for that. I'm going to bother Diz later to actually post up a full list of characters etc in another post for people to see and add to as we get more reveals. :D

[babettew54.livejournal.com]

This so cool. Thanks for this! :D

[nikki4noo.livejournal.com]

You are welcome, but I have to say that most of this was prompted by the wonderful brain of dizilla

[litlover12.livejournal.com]

I got the "Blanchard" part, but I didn't know where "Mary Margaret" came from. That's some good researching right there! :-)

And don't forget Ashley -- ashes = cinders.