Argument in our family: Season 3 spoilers

[paulliver.livejournal.com]

When Regina found and lost her true love, I was heart broken for her. I thought Regina's kissing Henry and breaking a curse meant that she was officially redeemed, so she deserved her happy ending, but then doesn't get it. My father thinks she did too much evil over the course of the show for redemption to be so soon. Comments?

Comments

[ahkna.livejournal.com]

Does the show? Because that's not what I'm getting at all because despite the whole bullshit about Snow's heart 'repurifying' or whatever that garbage was, Regina's not supposed to be at that point. I'm also highly suspect of people saying you can somehow 'earn' redemption, like you'll somehow be all 'I'm redeemed!' and that means everything is good. So ridiculous. There's no such thing as redemption as a point or place, it's a continuous journey that never ends.

[dani-ellie.livejournal.com]

I agree that Regina's not at all at that point. Where I'm getting that the show seems to think she is is that they gave her True Love's Kiss and allowed her to perform white magic all without a heart.

One of the big things of the heart-ripping is that the person whose heart is gone doesn't feel anything. That was Graham's whole problem. He didn't feel anything. Yet Regina feels enough to have True Love's Kiss with Henry without her heart? And she's come far enough on her hero's journey to use white magic (which is supposed to be based in emotion, which again, she shouldn't be able to feel without her heart), when she's never done so before? It just doesn't track, to me.

[ahkna.livejournal.com]

I don't really think we're agreeing because I'm saying there is no 'point'.

Your entire logic is flawed though because a) their heart mythology is utter garbage and b) Graham COULD feel, that was the entire point of that episode. The idea that you can't feel has been debunked and explained. Hence why Snow was so emotional without her heart. Why Aurora was as well.

Why would it matter that she can use white magic? It's about intent. She's not using anger as an anchor, it becomes white. Emma's supposed to be white magic but she's a pretty garbage person and has used anger in magic before, that means she shouldn't really be using white magic by your estimation.