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4. Who do you think is her True Love? Is it Hook, Neal or will it be someone else~~Regina~~?

August. :opppp

5. Where do you think she got the last name Swan?

Non-serious answer because the GIF made me think of PotC: Elizabeth Swan maybe? ;o) [Gosh, this sounds so weird. *LOL*]

Edited Date: 2014-08-19 06:54 pm (UTC)

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Yes for August! I loved their chemistry, though I do like her with Neil. Really, anyone is better than Hook, though. I like him as a character (though more so when he was a villain), but he isn't a good match for her all.

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I only know him from the few episodes in Season 2. And I didn't like him that much. :o/ Soooooooooo ... ;o)

*me is using THIS icon because of your icon* ;D

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I always thought Emma's True Love was the Huntsman. Since it was her kiss that brought him out of the Curse and all.

But if it's not, in my heart it will always be August. :-)

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*woot, woot* August!!!!!!! :333333333

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YES!! I'm still ticked about the way his storyline ended, even if it was *technically* a happy ending.

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I hated it. :o(

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1. What do you like best and least about Emma?

I like best her conflicted nature about her role, her past, her parents, and just about everything. She's kind of an anti-hero in a lot of ways, and I like that. What I like least is mostly related to her storylines with Henry because those are some of the parts of the show that make me the most mad. I hate that the show (and sometimes her) tries to make it out as if she's more Henry's real mother when she chose to give him up and Regina raised him. I hate the parts where she gets to control Henry's life and his relationship with Regina. And she really, really irritated me this past season with her insistence that she was going to take him back to New York even when the curse was broken as if that was her choice to make.

2. How has she changed over the past 3 seasons?

I think she has come to accept who she is and that she has a family.

3. What do you think her life would have been like if she grew up in The Enchanted Forest with her parents without the curse?

I think she'd be lest conflicted about being who she is and less issues with family in general.

4. Who do you think is her True Love? Is it Hook, Neal or will it be someone elseRegina?

Neal, though I like the idea of her with August too.

5. Where do you think she got the last name Swan?

Probably from a foster family?

6. What would you like to see happen for Emma in Season 4 and beyond?

I'd like to see her back off a bit on Henry and allow Regina to be equally his mother and equally make choices for him as a parent. I'd like to see her integrate more and be less sole hero and more just one hero of many. I'd love to see her learning more light magic. I'm kind of excited to see some rivalry with her and Regina over what she did with Marian (not Regina being evil, just some anger). I'd like to see her learn to start thinking things through more.

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I hate the parts where she gets to control Henry's life and his relationship with Regina. And she really, really irritated me this past season with her insistence that she was going to take him back to New York even when the curse was broken as if that was her choice to make.

Yeah, I agree with that. Emma should let Regina take care of Henry most of the time since she legaly adopted him, while Emma could hang out with Henry sometimes at meals, or during the weekends.

I also agree with your answer for #3 and 6.

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Exactly. I'm guessing the curse erased the adoption for the period where it was active, and therefore even when Emma had her memories back, her wanting to take him back to New York was okay (if a bit selfish, especially the keeping his memories from him part). But once the curse was gone, she had no legal right whatsoever to take him back, so her continuing to talk about it happening was not cool.

Honestly, I think the show gets confused. It has gotten better about now prioritizing birth parents, but it still makes it out as if Emma has some sort of legal claim and should be the primary parent who makes all the decisions. Which, no. As long as Regina was evil, Emma was the best solution even if there was no legal claim there. But now that Regina is good and Henry acknowledges her as his mother too, she is the one who has the legal claim. I'm all for both of them being his mothers and in his life, but Regina is the one with the legal claim and should be the primary, not secondary, parent.

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I really hope the writers will remember that Regina is supposed to be Henry's mother in the upcoming season.

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Me too. They've gotten better, but there is still sometimes that feel of blood is superior to adoption which sets my teeth on edge. And especially once we got the glimpses into Henry's adoption and were shown that it wasn't like Regina was a bad parent the whole time, just when he started figuring things out. So Henry has good memories of her. I was happy when he acknowledged her as his mom and that he loved her too.

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Yeah, I agree with that. Emma should let Regina take care of Henry most of the time since she legaly adopted him, while Emma could hang out with Henry sometimes at meals, or during the weekends.

Would you want to leave your kid with the woman who tried to kill you and your entire family and just see him at meals and on weekends?

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It's not a matter of what she did to others. Emma gave Henry away, she has no rights to keep him. Regina legaly adopted him, and she never hurt Henry, she loves him and Emma knows it.

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Except Regina did hurt him. 1x02, she makes sure Henry overhears Emma saying that the fairy tale thing is crazy. She set it up so that her son would hear someone think he was crazy. All throughout season one, it's a plot point that she got the whole town to think he was crazy. She made her son an Other.

She may have never raised a hand to him, but there are different kinds of abuse other than physical.

And I'm sorry, but I do think it matters whether or not Regina has tried to kill Henry's entire family. I wouldn't leave anyone I care about in the hands of someone who tried to kill me, at any rate.

I'm not arguing that Regina should never see Henry. I'm just arguing that she has done some awful things, here, to both Henry and his family, and some hesitance on everyone else's part may in fact be looking out for the best interest of the child.

Edited Date: 2014-08-20 02:15 am (UTC)

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I really don't care what Regina did. All I'm saying it that she legaly adopted Henry, so Emma is not allowed to keep him with her.

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Do we know if that still stands, though? With the destruction of the curse and Emma and Henry having lived in Land Without Magic by themselves for a year, I'm assuming Emma would have had to have had legal custody of Henry from a paperwork standpoint. I don't know how she could have enrolled in school otherwise. At the very least, there may be two legal claims of motherhood, one in Storybrooke for Regina and one in the Land Without Magic for Emma.

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I guess we might have the answer to that question in the upcoming season.

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In my opinion, Emma had legal claim to him during the period where the curse was reversed and magic/Storybrooke never came to our world. But once the new curse was cast and Storybrooke was back in our world, that undid all the life Regina set up for Henry and Regina. Therefore, Regina now is the one with the legal claim again.

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Everyone was in Storybrooke for a day or so before Emma and Henry arrived. No one could leave. It wasn't the casting of the new curse that returned Emma's memories but the memory potion Hook had given her. If Hook hadn't found Emma, she and Henry would have lived their lives in New York, oblivious to everyone else's existence. All the setup that Regina had given them would have remained intact. Emma chose to come back and chose to return to her real life, which now means she has to share, but so does Regina.

And if we want to talk legality, if Henry had presented to a real-world hospital with signs of poisoning like he did back at the end of season one, he would have been removed from Regina's custody so fast her head would have spun. Social services wouldn't have cared that she hadn't meant to poison him but was meaning to poison Emma. The very fact that she tried to poison anyone at all would have gotten him removed. She has also tried -- multiple times -- to kill Henry's entire family, and when she told him about it and he expressed his shock and horror at the idea, she wiped his memory so she could be free to do it anyway. Yes, she's better now, but no real-world judge in his or her right mind would let Regina anywhere near Henry again after what Regina's done. Legal claim doesn't matter as much in a court of law as the child's safety and well-being.

I blame the show for this as much as anyone, though. It never deals with the consequences of actions, so everything that's happened is just treated as bygones.

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1. What do you like best and least about Emma?

I like her tough, no-nonsense attitude and also the fact that she dresses in a wide variety of ways. That probably sounds silly. LOL

2. How has she changed over the past 3 seasons?

I like how she's grown to love Henry and has become mother-like to him just like Regina.

3. What do you think her life would have been like if she grew up in The Enchanted Forest with her parents without the curse?

It's so hard to picture her a fairytale princess! :p I definitely think she'd have still been tomboy-ish like Snow came to be.

4. Who do you think is her True Love? Is it Hook, Neal or will it be someone else?

I don't think it's Hook, though I do like their chemistry. I hope it's not Neal, though I'd survive if it was. And, in my fantasy world, it's always Regina. ;)

5. Where do you think she got the last name Swan?

I know, in fanfic, it's always said it was the name of foster parents who'd been good to her. But, that doesn't really make sense. So, maybe it was the name that little August gave for her.

6. What would you like to see happen for Emma in Season 4 and beyond?

Dump Hook :p!

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Well, I hope not "just like" Regina.

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Regina was a good mother, right up until Henry started figuring things out and she panicked. And she's gone back to being a good mother. And Emma has had her moments of being a bad, controlling parent too. So I think they are about equal at this point, especially considering that Emma chose to give him up (for his good, and it was the right decision for her) and technically wasn't his mother until he chose to bring her back into his life.

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We don't know that Regina was a good mother prior to the Henry figuring things out. We don't know that she was a bad one, either. We didn't see it. We do have Archie telling Emma that Henry's and Regina's issues went beyond the fairy tale thing, because she'd had him in therapy beforehand. Whether that was really the case or whether those were Archie's cursed memories is up for debate, but either way, we don't know.

And no matter what Emma's done, she's come nowhere near gaslighting her own son, hurting him emotionally simply to gain points over someone else, or attempting to kill his entire family. I don't agree that Regina and Emma are at all on equal footing.

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I definitely think she'd have still been tomboy-ish like Snow came to be.

Yeah, I think so too! lol

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Firstly, Emma's my girl. <3

1. What do you like best and least about Emma?

I just love Emma. I love her attitude, I love her protective side. I love that she took the pain of her past and turned it into empathy. Yeah, she's a tough nut to crack but there's no doubt that once she's on your side, she's going to fight like hell for you. And mostly, I just want her to be happy. I want someone to hug her and hold her until all her pain goes away and she can let it all go and be happy.

2. How has she changed over the past 3 seasons?

I think she's opened up a lot, considering. What I really loved about Emma's journey in season one was watching her settle down in Storybrooke almost despite herself. To watch the first few eps, it's shocking to me how different Emma is, in terms of body language and how she holds herself.

3. What do you think her life would have been like if she grew up in The Enchanted Forest with her parents without the curse?

I think she totally would have had Charming wrapped around her little finger, and I envision many many of her little princess dresses having to be mended or thrown out because she would not have been a proper little princess. I bet she would have been caught roaming the grounds and going on tiny princess-y adventures, more often than not. And it goes without saying that she would have had archery lessons with Snow and swordplay lessons with Charming.

4. Who do you think is her True Love? Is it Hook, Neal or will it be someone else~~Regina~~?

I'm thinking it's Hook. They've had a connection from the first moment they met, and he can read her like a book. They're kindred spirits in many ways, and I think they're equally up to the challenge of getting past each other's trust issues and loving each other.

5. Where do you think she got the last name Swan?

I'm thinking it was from her first family. She was with that family until she was three and she wasn't with another family long enough to take their surname.

6. What would you like to see happen for Emma in Season 4 and beyond?

I would like to see her come into her magic but mostly, like I said above, I just want her to be happy.

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Do we know if that still stands, though? With the destruction of the curse and Emma and Henry having lived in Land Without Magic by themselves for a year, I'm assuming Emma would have had to have had legal custody of Henry from a paperwork standpoint. I don't know how she could have enrolled in school otherwise. At the very least, there may be two legal claims of motherhood, one in Storybrooke for Regina and one in the Land Without Magic for Emma.

Emma never had any legal claim of Henry. Never. Even when she and Henry were living in New York. All Regina did was alter their memories. She never reversed what really happened . . . which is, Emma had legally given up Henry after he was born in prison. That was never legally reversed.

Even if the law does question Regina's existence and the legality of the adoption, chances are Emma might never become Henry's legal guardian. Some parents who have given up their children for adoption, have managed to regain legal claim of those kids. Emma's chances of that happening are extremely slim. One, Emma is former thief and a former convict who had served time in prison. And two, Emma broke the law by remaining in contact with Henry after he had found her.

If the law ever question the legality of Regina's existence and take Henry from her, chances are someone else - namely a stranger - would end up becoming Henry's legal guardian.

I wish for two things. I'd like to see the darker side of Emma's personality, other than her reluctance to accept Storybrooke as home. And two, I wish she would dump the "savior" label. She hasn't really acted as "the savior" since she broke the first curse. And the only reason she was dubbed "the savior" in the first place was to break that curse.

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I completely agree that in a real-world situation Emma would never have custody of Henry. But in a real-world situation, neither would Regina.

Emma never had any legal claim of Henry. Never. Even when she and Henry were living in New York. All Regina did was alter their memories. She never reversed what really happened . . . which is, Emma had legally given up Henry after he was born in prison. That was never legally reversed.

I am aware that Emma in fact really gave Henry up for adoption. But in order for them to have established lives in this world, paperwork would have had to have been magically arranged or glamoured or something to at least give the appearance that Emma is his legal guardian. Emma couldn't have enrolled Henry in school without his birth certificate. As far as the state of New York is concerned, Emma is Henry's birth mother and legal guardian.

Now, the show doesn't go into this, and I highly doubt it ever will. But in order for Emma and Henry to have established themselves anywhere -- and they clearly had because they'd lived in New York for an entire real year -- these kinds of things need to be in place.

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It won't help. The whole thing in New York was merely a memory altering spell created by Regina. Emma and Henry's one year stay in New York has no real legal standing. It was just an illusion of their minds. If someone had taken the chance to examine Emma and Henry's one-year stay in New York, they would find out about Emma's time in the joint, her giving up Henry for adoption and the fact that she broke the closed adoption rule to be with him. She would be in serious trouble. Emma's chance of ever being Henry's legal guardian is extremely slim, despite that one year in New York City. Regina's chances of using the law to keep Henry are pretty slim as well, due to the fact that Storybrooke is a creation of magic.

Their best chance is to simply share custody of Henry. I doubt that he would mind. As far as he is concerned, both are his mothers. This is the price Emma has to pay for giving up Henry in the first place. And this is the price that Regina has to pay for casting that first curse.

We don't know that Regina was a good mother prior to the Henry figuring things out. We don't know that she was a bad one, either. We didn't see it. We do have Archie telling Emma that Henry's and Regina's issues went beyond the fairy tale thing, because she'd had him in therapy beforehand.

How would Archie know? Until Emma's arrival, the citizens of Storybrooke have been reliving the same day over and over again. Only Regina and Henry have been aware of the continuing years.

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