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1. What do you like about Hook?

2. What would you change about Hook?

3. Thoughts on how his story tied to Rumple as the crocodile?

4. Was Milah his true love?

5. How choppy are the waters for his relationship with Emma as we go into season 4?

Date: 2014-07-29 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hughville.livejournal.com
1. What do you like about Hook?
He can be funny and charming when he isn't punching women.

2. What would you change about Hook?
Have him stop punching women for starters. I have a real problem with that.

3. Thoughts on how his story tied to Rumple as the crocodile?
That's an issue I have with Rumplestiltskin's character and the writers. Is Rumple The Beast? Is he The Crocodile? Couldn't they find a different way to introduce Hook? Everyone is related in some way to everyone else. *smh*

4. Was Milah his true love?
For five minutes to make the Rumple angle work.

5. How choppy are the waters for his relationship with Emma as we go into season 4?
I'm The Keeper Of The Spoilers here so I'm just going to go now.

I would like to state for the record that Colin O'Donoghue is a very talented actor. I think he does the best he can with what he's given.

Feel free to flame me.

Date: 2014-07-29 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sanalith.livejournal.com
1. What do you like about Hook?
He has awesome clothes. And guyliner. And Colin is a wonderfully talented actor with a VERY lovely accent <3

2. What would you change about Hook?
- Stop smacking Belle around >.>
- Stop making sexual innuendos
- Stop threatening cripples
- Stop making said cripple believe the mother of his child is going to be gang-raped by pirates

3. Thoughts on how his story tied to Rumple as the crocodile?

4. Was Milah his true love?
I'm kinda doubtful, mainly because I don't think Milah HAD one. She was in love with adventure and excitement, not people.

5. How choppy are the waters for his relationship with Emma as we go into season 4?
I apologize profusely to Captain Swan shippers, but I honestly see them as a fan service. While I think Jennifer and Colin have awesome chemistry together, I just don't see how or why Emma could fall for Hook. And regardless of how you may or may not have liked Neal, he was a huge part of Emma's life, and I found it extremely out of character that she would be snogging Hook out in the open mere days after he DIED IN HER ARMS.

To be fair, I do like Hook more than I did in season 2. I feel like he's grown and is at least TRYING to turn over a new leaf. (Although that stint with Ariel in FTL didn't help his case at all.) But I still really dislike him, even if he IS pretty to look at.

Date: 2014-07-29 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sensitivinferno.livejournal.com
1. What do you like about Hook?

Colin.

2. What would you change about Hook?

The white-washing of his character.

3. Thoughts on how his story tied to Rumple as the crocodile?

I mean...it tied together really because of Milah. I have no thoughts on that except they were both pretty terrible people.

4. Was Milah his true love?

I have no idea. I don't doubt that he loved her very much.

5. How choppy are the waters for his relationship with Emma as we go into season 4?

Considering all of the things he's done, including leaving her and her mom and friends in a cell to die during season 2 and having never apologized for that...I'd say pretty choppy. Unless he makes an ACTUAL REAL APOLOGY for his past actions, I am not buying him as a woobie.

Date: 2014-07-29 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] earthspirits.livejournal.com
1. What do you like about Hook?
Firstly, Colin. A tremendously talented and sweet guy, intelligent, with tons of charm and of course, extremely handsome. I also love that the series is now focusing more on Killian as Killian, rather than as just "Hook". That said, I also like his metal hook, and his pirate swagger, as well as his bravery and loyalty (to Emma).

2. What would you change about Hook?
What has happened in the series has happened. That said, going forward, I want to see more focus on Killian continuing to becoming his old "pre-Hook" honorable self, with continued sincere making of amends for all wrongs he committed previously, as well as joining Emma in protecting her family, and the rest of Storybrooke's citizens (he has, to some extent, already started to do this). That would be realistic, and very welcome. Besides, I love a good redemption plot. That said, I prefer that the writers don't lose the character's wit, charm, and swagger, which I admire, and which is a very appealing part of his persona.

3. Thoughts on how his story tied to Rumple as the crocodile?
On this series, everything seems to (eventually) in some way or other, be tied to Rumple, sort of "six degrees" of Rumple. That said, I think Hook could have been introduced a bit better, preferably without Milah.

4. Was Milah his true love?
No - but since Hook / Killian is loyal to those he is fond of, he will go to extremes to avenge and/or protect them (such as his reaction to the death of this brother). As for Milah herself, I don't think she ever truly "loved" anyone, Rumple or Hook - just adventure and kicks.

5. How choppy are the waters for his relationship with Emma as we go into season 4?
Knowing the writers, there will probably be some more angst and difficulties along the way, but I think that eventually Killian and Emma will be together as a devoted couple, and firmly, mutually in love. As far as I'm concerned, they are each other's true love and soul mates.
Edited Date: 2014-07-29 04:44 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-07-29 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] athousandsmiles
1. What do you like about Hook?

His charm, his smile, his blue blue eyes.... *clears throat* Where were we? Oh yes, I also love his redemption arc. One of my favorite things about this show is that not all the "bad guys" started out that way. So it's totally in character, IMO, for him to fall in with the "good guys" and decide to redeem himself. It's one of the things I love about Regina too; she's trying to go back to being good, and if shippers can forgive her for murdering literally hundreds of people (and raping Graham/Huntsman), then I don't see why they can't forgive Hook for punching Belle. And that's all I'll say, 'cause I'm not here to start a ship war.

2. What would you change about Hook?

Can't think of a thing.

3. Thoughts on how his story tied to Rumple as the crocodile?

I didn't buy that Hook was somehow deeply in love with Milah, and I think she was selfish to leave her son, but otherwise, I don't mind that plot line.

4. Was Milah his true love?

No, see above. My head canon is that he only thought it was true love until he met Emma. ;)

5. How choppy are the waters for his relationship with Emma as we go into season 4?

I hope that while they'll have their problems to work through and might get separated at the hand of some curse/villain, they always end up together like Snow and Charming. But I'm bracing myself in case the writers split them up. And then I'll drown myself in fluffy CS fic.

Date: 2014-07-29 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mommanerd.livejournal.com
1. What do you like about Hook?
I would go with his resiliency. The guy gets knocked down literally and metaphorically more than the rest of the group put together. And then he gets right back up and tries another tack.

2. What would you change about Hook?
Probably nothing. His past is his past and he's willing to move on and forward and learn from his experiences.

3. Thoughts on how his story tied to Rumple as the crocodile?
I like it. I like how there will always be friction between the two characters because that is interesting. Some of my favorite scenes are the two characters squaring off with each other.

4. Was Milah his true love?
I can accept that she was A love. He obviously didn't agree with all of her choices, and would have preferred to go back and get her son. My take on that is that he's driven to find the family that he lost when his brother died.

5. How choppy are the waters for his relationship with Emma as we go into season 4?
Mega choppy. He has issues. She has issues. Plus, smooth is not really interesting. I'm fine with them having stumbling blocks to overcome. I just hope they don't put him in a sleeping spell for half the season. Where's the fun in that?

Date: 2014-07-29 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alley-skywalker.livejournal.com
1. What do you like about Hook?
The good looks help. The charm and wit and swagger help. The bad-boy archetype in general helps… I like what he is super loyal to people he REALLY cares about even though there aren’t a lot of them. I like that he doesn’t let things get in his way, that he’s confidant, determined… He’s just all around the sort of male character I love in fiction.

2. What would you change about Hook?
Him going goo-goo over Emma. I started out shipping this paring when it was kind of more a “hook up” but now… Also, tying into this, I hope they tone down this trajectory that he’s on. Redemptions are very cliché and standard, but I kinda hope he keep some of that unapologetic streak, too. (I think there’s such a thing as a healthy dose of selfishness.)

3. Thoughts on how his story tied to Rumple as the crocodile?
I didn’t mind it. Actually, it gives me Killian/MIlah to ship and then Bae and Killian too, by association, so…

4. Was Milah his true love?
First of all, I’m not buying the whole “true love” fantasy/trope. *rolls eyes* IMO it’s totally possible to love different people throughout your lifetime. So, yes, I think he did love her. Whether or not she loved him…I don’t see why not? People fall in love in this show/fairytales from first sight or for no reason at all *cough*Belle*cough* so I don’t see why not. It could have totally happened later (after they left) too… She may have been selfish for leaving her son, but that’s different from her feelings for Killian. (I also object to this idea that an act of selfishness toward one person or falling out of love with someone means that a person can’t really love someone else. Or that if you fall in love, it HAS to be forever and ever and ever or it doesn’t count.) /end rant

5. How choppy are the waters for his relationship with Emma as we go into season 4?
I mean, they obviously still have issues. Neither of them has an easy personality. There’s plenty of material to allow for dramatic angst, but I feel like they’re setting them up for the long run. I’m not an Emma fan so I wouldn’t mind it if they broke up either.

Date: 2014-07-29 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dani-ellie.livejournal.com
1. What do you like about Hook?

I like that he came to the realization that vengeance is a path to self-destruction rather than satisfaction on his own. It gives him a level of self-awareness that neither Regina nor Rumple seem to possess, and it makes his redemption path seem more ... lasting, I guess. Because he gave it up on his own and not for someone else, because he's not relying on an external source to be his moral compass, and because he didn't like the person he'd become. I like that he builds Emma up and gives her confidence and just generally is there for her in a way that so few people have ever been. I think she needs that, she needs someone to push her but she also needs someone to tell her, "I've yet to see you fail."

2. What would you change about Hook?

Truthfully, I'm very happy with the way his story has been handled thus far. I would maybe have liked him to not attempt to kidnap Henry, even as a means of keeping him safe, but beyond that, I'm good with the captain.

3. Thoughts on how his story tied to Rumple as the crocodile?

There were perhaps other ways of integrating him into the story but I did like that it wasn't just the taking of his hand that kept him on a 300-year path to vengeance. For something to be worth it for three centuries, there needs to be a more personal stake involved, especially in a land where magic exists and a new hand could potentially be poofed into place. Having Rumple be the one to kill his love met those personal stakes.

4. Was Milah his true love?

I don't know. I don't deny they loved each other but we didn't really see enough of them together for me to be sure.

5. How choppy are the waters for his relationship with Emma as we go into season 4?

Knowing this show, I'm sure it'll be very choppy. Emma's not an easy person to get to know, and I'm sure both her and his trust issues will make problems for them. But they are kindred spirits in a way, and I like that Hook can read her like a book, so it's my hope that these crazy kids do work it out. No lie, my dream series finale is Emma's wedding to Hook, which would bookend nicely with the show starting on Snow's and Charming's wedding while taking Emma from the friendless orphan we met in the pilot to a true fairy tale princess surrounded by more love than she knows what to do with.
Edited Date: 2014-07-29 09:20 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-07-30 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katleept.livejournal.com


1. What do you like about Hook?
I love his personality, his charming roguishness, his Pirate!ness, and his hidden depths.

2. What would you change about Hook?
I MIGHT get him Hooked on some one else as, as much as I would like to see it otherwise, I don't see him getting the happily ever after he deserves with Emma.

3. Thoughts on how his story tied to Rumple as the crocodile?
Yet another unsuspecting twist the writers sprung on us! I do love how they interlace all the tales together. I'm one of the few who enjoyed the twist with Pan, disliking (and hating) only that Rumpel died.

4. Was Milah his true love?
Bleep no!

5. How choppy are the waters for his relationship with Emma as we go into season 4?
Too much so. They're not going to let Emma be happy until the end of the series, if then.

Date: 2014-07-30 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ctrent29.livejournal.com
Have him stop punching women for starters. I have a real problem with that.


I also had a problem with Emma punching him for the slightest thing, as well.


1. What do you like about Hook?
He is funny and complex, at the same time.


2. What would you change about Hook?
Nothing. I almost added that I wish the writers would stop turning him into some kind of Wile E. Coyote. But apparently they have.


3. Thoughts on how his story tied to Rumple as the crocodile?
Honestly? I had no problems.


4. Was Milah his true love?
Probably. He spent nearly three centuries seeking revenge for her death.

5. How choppy are the waters for his relationship with Emma as we go into season 4?
I think any man getting involved with Emma is in for some choppy water.



Plus, I find it really hard to feel sorry for Regina that her boyfriend's dead wife is back when she was the one who was supposed to have killed her in the first place.


The series hasn't confirmed that Regina had Marian killed in the original timeline. The story isn't finished yet. And that doesn't excuse the fact that both Emma and Hook did the wrong thing by bringing Marian to Storybrooke. They changed the timeline . . . and that was wrong. Even a series like "CHARMED" was willing to admit that changing the timeline - even if it meant saving an innocent's life - was a recipe for disaster. It's just wrong. That's why Hook warned Emma about changing the timeline, numerous times.
Edited Date: 2014-07-30 04:54 pm (UTC)

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