[identity profile] puppetmaker40.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] abc_onceupon
How about one a little further a field than the obvious.

Grumpy/Leroy and Nova/Astrid

Who have a rather tragic romance if you ask me.

So a few questions to start the discussion and please feel free to add.

1) What would you call this ship?

2) Do you think that Leroy and Astrid go on dates in Storybrooke?

3) It was his romance with Nova that changed Grumpy’s name from Dreamy. Do you think it was better to have loved and lost rather than have loved at all?

4) Would their love be considered an inner species relationship?

5) How about in Storybrooke where they are both human but she is nun?

Date: 2014-06-14 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkythegeek.livejournal.com
1) What would you call this ship?

Good question, but I have no idea. :p

2) Do you think that Leroy and Astrid go on dates in Storybrooke?

I think they should. ;)

3) It was his romance with Nova that changed Grumpy’s name from Dreamy. Do you think it was better to have loved and lost rather than have loved at all?

Hmm, I don't know. If - as Bossy said - dwarves can't love, why did he actually become Grumpy? It was just a dream and not love, right?*

4) Would their love be considered an inner species relationship?

LOL I don't suppose it matters in the Enchanted Forest. :)

5) How about in Storybrooke where they are both human but she is nun?

I think it'd be interesting to see if their friendship developed into something more in a future episode...


* The business of Blue and Bossy saying that they couldn't be in love, not that they *shouldn't*, really bothered me. Who were they to be so omnipotent?

Date: 2014-06-14 12:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ramasi.livejournal.com
I loved these two and their stories, I'm so sad Nova isn't around anymore. Because I don't know if they go on dates in Storybrooke (I'd say no because we don't see it), but I agree with [livejournal.com profile] casrin that they should!

And then, I feel like it would have been really interesting to see how Nova feels about this now; I mean, it turns out she never took vows so she's not really a nun, but still, maybe it still feels real to her and not like something she can just chuck out and ignore? Maybe the show doesn't want to go into religion anyway (what's with the priest at Snow and Charming's wedding? does the catholic church span across worlds? 'cause that would be cool and I want to know!), but I always figured it's meaningful that the fairies, with Blue and her very arenunciation focused morality, are nuns in Storybrooke. And what's with the whole "fairies need crystals" thing, now that we know there's also pure "good" magic...?).
(I'm a fan of the "Blue is secretly Evil or/and has an agenda of her own" theory, but I'm even more of a fan of the idea of Blue just genuinely being well-meaning and kinda dickish and really bad with people and their earthly problems such as personal love).

I think Grumpy is better off having known and loved Nova, yes, and I do think that's how he feels; he's not Happy anymore, but – he seems more real? Human? Clearly dwarfs can love, and I think he's better off having discovered that.

I don't think the inter species thing really matters either; the relationship felt very sex-less in FTL for one, and now they're both human anyway.
Edited Date: 2014-06-14 12:48 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-06-14 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkythegeek.livejournal.com
Hehe. I think Blue is evil. I love it when the fanfics play that angle. Lol

Date: 2014-06-14 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ramasi.livejournal.com
It would make a whole lot of sense, imo. I do wonder about no-one within the show ever stopping and wondering about her. (Your icon reminds me that I *really* hope we're going to get the story of Tink's first chance too.)

Date: 2014-06-15 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ctrent29.livejournal.com
Astrid is not a real nun. So her role as a "nun" should not impede her romance with Grumpy. Her role as a "fairy" might. But since she was willing to give up her wings to be with Grumpy . . . I guess I don't see the problem. The real problem is that actress Amy Acker is a regular on "PERSONS OF INTEREST".

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