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Episode Discussion 1x17: Hat Trick

While searching for a missing Mary Margaret, Emma Swan is kidnapped by a man whose affinity for hats has him teetering on the edge of madness. Meanwhile, the Evil Queen persuades a skillful man of magic to come work for her one last time and travel to Wonderland in order to help her steal something from the Queen of Hearts.

Date: 2012-03-25 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] personaleclipse.livejournal.com
can someone give me a stream link pls?

Date: 2012-03-26 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] litlover12.livejournal.com
Grace wins the award for Best Cloak So Far on This Series. And considering all the pretty cloaks we've seen so far, that's saying something.

Also, if Regina's hair gets any bigger, she'll have to duck when she walks through doorways!

Date: 2012-03-26 09:51 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-03-26 12:28 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] veracity
Does anyone else think that Regina's outfits are trying to be Az's from the Tin Man as the series progresses?

Date: 2012-03-26 12:33 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] veracity
Is anyone else kind of tired of Emma's refusal to accept even a little thing on faith after all this time? I don't know about anyone else, but it's starting to take me out of the story.

Date: 2012-03-26 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] personaleclipse.livejournal.com
it's not just you, I find it kind of frustrating as well

Date: 2012-03-26 12:56 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] veracity
We've established she's extremely jaded and a realist, but there has to be more. She lets a little bit in, and then she goes back to stone cold.

Date: 2012-03-26 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] litlover12.livejournal.com
I kind of like this Jefferson dude. Finally someone is trying to move the plot along for us! :-)

Date: 2012-03-26 12:53 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-03-26 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkythegeek.livejournal.com
Agreed! He's way more interesting than August has been so far.

Date: 2012-03-26 12:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] litlover12.livejournal.com
They've repeated this "two go in, two go back" thing enough times that I'm guessing someone's going to find a loophole in it. Who wants to bet that the two who went through are not the same two who are going back?

. . . And yup, there it is!
Edited Date: 2012-03-26 12:37 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-03-26 12:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] veracity
....is that Carson from SGA?

Date: 2012-03-26 12:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] veracity
Sorry, Stargate Atlantis.

Date: 2012-03-27 03:38 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] veracity
Vancouver acting pool strikes again?

Date: 2012-03-27 07:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] veracity
You can always have fun with playing spot the guest star.

Date: 2012-03-26 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] litlover12.livejournal.com
"Family"? Nice Freudian slip, Emma!

Date: 2012-03-26 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamlover.livejournal.com
Emma starting to believe is absolutely a huge deal. If she doesn't backpedal, then it's pivotal moment in the arc - a turning point. She will have to approach absolutely everything differently from now on, if she believes in the curse. And should be totally freaked out about Henry living with murderous Regina. I really do hope she doesn't backpedal - like others here, I am seriously ready for some forward momentum, especially since we're leading up to the season finale.

It was a good episode. I thought the stark contrast in the way Emma and Mary Margaret reacted to being held prisoner and the differences in their body language when trying to creep out was spectacular. Emma so much bolder/stronger than Mary Margaret. Then Mary Margaret turned around and did some awesomeness that's so foreign to the person supposedly is. Was nice.

Date: 2012-03-26 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chloris.livejournal.com
Yes! Emma is starting to believe or at least not be so certain she knows everything about reality.

Gold is one sneaky bastard. I seriously need to know what sort of game he's playing.

And Regina continues to show us why she is the EVIL QUEEN. She may have felt a bit bad about leaving Jefferson behind but I doubt she lost a moment's sleep over it or the thought she had torn yet another family apart.

Date: 2012-03-26 12:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] litlover12.livejournal.com
I hope they show us something soon about what game Gold's playing. It's starting to look like he does things and no one gets them and then he looks all triumphant at the end and we're all "AHA! He knew all along!"

Well . . . maybe. But if they play that card too often, it's going to start wearing thin. I think they should show him taking an active role in events more often.

Date: 2012-03-26 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamlover.livejournal.com
I don't mind if he takes a more active role in Storybrooke, but I really hope we see him less in the Enchanted Forest. It was getting very frustrating/annoying earlier this season when it seemed like he was involved in every single fairytale.

Date: 2012-03-26 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chloris.livejournal.com
What we need is a window into his thoughts. Unless he stops by and tells the person how he planned it all (like in Desperate Souls), it's difficult for us to see his plan. It's all inference when we could use some definite facts.

Date: 2012-03-26 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] litlover12.livejournal.com
Yes, exactly.
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Date: 2012-03-26 12:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] litlover12.livejournal.com
And all that fuss about getting Roger Daltrey, when he only spoke, what, five words? Good grief!

I did like the episode overall, though.

Date: 2012-03-26 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkythegeek.livejournal.com
Which one was he? We totally missed him. :p

Date: 2012-03-26 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] litlover12.livejournal.com
Remember the caterpillar they saw when they first entered Wonderland? I'm pretty sure that was him.

Date: 2012-03-27 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkythegeek.livejournal.com
Oh! Well, how anti-climactic is that then? :p

Date: 2012-03-26 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodysuicide69.livejournal.com
I loved this episode. I wish the hatter would come back, but I'm guessing he's gone. Into the hat wence he came. I just hope it's to FairyTale land he went and not Wonderland. :\ But either way, everyone is gone.

I knew the moment that his name was the same in FTL and Storybrooke that he would remember it all.

However, I see no other wonderland characters in Storybrooke, so if he was stuck in Wonderland how did he make it to Storybrooke?

I wanted to believe that Emma was talking for real when she said she wanted to believe that MM was her mother!

Now, do all the evil queens (Queen of Hearts and EQ herself) have vaults they store things in?

I think this was a really good episode. It's definitely dawning on Emma that things aren't what they seem.

Date: 2012-03-27 09:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] birdienl.livejournal.com
However, I see no other wonderland characters in Storybrooke, so if he was stuck in Wonderland how did he make it to Storybrooke?

I wondered about this as well. Maybe it was because he was originally from Fairytaleland that he ended up in Storybrooke.

But that still leaves us with the question, WHY did he remember? What makes him different from the others in Storybrooke?

Date: 2012-03-27 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodysuicide69.livejournal.com
Maybe because his mind is opened to the idea of other realities because he wielded the hat to transport him there. I was thinking that too.

I knew the moment his name was the same that he knew.

Anyone else notice that Regina kept her name! We always knew her as EQ. Now we know her name is Regina! Was this already known? I feel like it's new.

Date: 2012-03-27 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] birdienl.livejournal.com
Yes, I believe she was mentioned as Regina in the 'Sidney/Magic Mirror' episode as well by her husband - Snow White's father

Date: 2012-03-27 10:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madwitch58.livejournal.com
is it me or did any one else have Jefferson Airplane's White Rabbet playing in their heads the next day?

Date: 2012-03-27 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodysuicide69.livejournal.com
THINKING THAT THE WHOLE TIME!!!!

The white rabbit, Grace wanted. "Jefferson" for the name.

Also, isn't it funny that the only line Robert Daltrey says is "Who R U" and he's from the band The Who. :) Lots of play on words here.

Date: 2012-03-28 12:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madwitch58.livejournal.com
And Grace Slick was the name of the woman who sang White Rabbet for the band. Lot of old Hippies here .

Date: 2012-03-28 08:47 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] wily-one24.livejournal.com


I have a question... exactly what was the layout of that house?

When we see Emma help Jefferson into the building, it is pretty much intimated (albiet not confirmed, but still) that they enter some sort of living room/lounge/entertaining area. Which would be... on the ground floor. It seems immediately close to the front door.

Yet, as soon as Emma sneaks out, she finds Mary Margaret tied up a few doors down the corridor... the room Jefferson then takes her to is again also shown explicitly to be a few doors away from Mary Margaret's room... and yet when they fight and Jefferson falls out the window suddenly they are two or three stories up?

Who has their entry way/lounge/living room several flights of stairs? And, if so, why would Emma think it normal to help him up those stairs with a twisted ankle?

And how did they get the piano up there?

I'm confused.

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