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Episode Discussion 1x13: What Happened To Frederick
With their love for each other growing stronger, David finally agrees to tell Kathryn about his relationship with Mary Margaret and put an end to his loveless marriage. Meanwhile, in the fairytale land that was, while runaway groom Prince Charming searches for Snow White, he agrees to aid Abigail on a dangerous mission to recover something precious that was lost to her.
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Date: 2012-02-20 01:05 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2012-02-20 01:19 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-02-20 01:27 am (UTC)Something just occurred to me -- could Mary Margaret not be the real Snow White?? She seems to be acting very odd -- and there IS a parallel storyline going on here about a shape-shifting siren. . . .
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Date: 2012-02-20 01:37 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-02-20 02:19 am (UTC)Could he be Rump's son after all?
Loved Charming. Total opposite to the indecisive, dishonest, and weak David. Poor Mary Margaret. Poor Kathryn.
Happy for Abigail & Frederick.
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Date: 2012-02-20 02:27 am (UTC)Weird how we never saw Rumpel/Gold at all this time, considering he usually manages to make himself the center of things!
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Date: 2012-02-20 03:03 am (UTC)So what was the big deal, exactly?
To my way of thinking, MM's behavior was even worse than David's. She was being all self-righteous about the whole thing, when she hadn't even stopped to consider Kathryn's feelings at all.
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Date: 2012-02-20 03:16 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-02-20 03:51 am (UTC)FREDERICK ♥
He's Alcatrazraz and in one of my fav Lifetime miniseries (because of Emma Lahana) Seven Deadly Sins. It took me all episode to figure that out.
AND ONCE AGAIN ARCHIE FANS BE DAMNED WE LOST TWO ARCHIE SCENES! One where he was pining across the street at the diner (possibly Ruby) and one where he was talking to Emma at night. I think the pining moment comes from the cut scenes from last weeks train wreck.
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Date: 2012-02-20 04:07 am (UTC)I was wondering if Archie's scenes were cut again! It's kinda ridiculous at this point that he's listed as a regular character when Ruby's not, yet Ruby seems to have more episodes than him now. Personally I can see how there wouldn't be room in this episode for them, but last week anything that wasn't Rumpelstiltskin/Gold was pretty filler so I don't see why they couldn't have kept him in instead of the princesses having issues.
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Date: 2012-02-20 04:08 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2012-02-20 05:34 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-02-20 05:49 am (UTC)Also, was that a can of red spray paint in her drawer? Implying that she's the one who painted "TRAMP" on the car in broad daylight? Doesn't make sense.
August said something about "I always tell the truth". Hmmm. Maybe a key to his identity but the only thing I could come up with was Pinocchio and I can't really see how that would work (but then again, the writers have a knack for making stuff work that seems like it won't). :)
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Date: 2012-02-20 06:30 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-02-20 06:35 am (UTC)You know, we were reading about the 'mayor of the palace' in medieval history. It's got me thinking that maybe the keys also represent that Regina was and is a regent, a mayor of the palace, in a somewhat Middles Ages type world.
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Date: 2012-02-20 10:41 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-02-20 02:28 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-02-20 03:25 pm (UTC)Agreed on Charming vs. wimpy David. He and MM/Snow sure had personality flips, didn't they?
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Date: 2012-02-20 03:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-02-20 03:28 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-02-20 05:27 pm (UTC)I like the idea of August being Pinocchio!
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Date: 2012-02-20 05:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-02-20 11:33 pm (UTC)1) It was probably really obvious to some people, but I got really excited when Kathryn bumped into the guy that looked like either a coach or school gym teacher while confronting Mary Margaret and proceeded to yell "OMG, THAT'S FREDERICK!!!" It scared my parents. XD
1a) Speaking of Frederick, I can't believe it took me THIS long to remember/piece together that he was the same knight that King Midas referred to in an older episode (the Charming-centered one). When I finally thought about it, I went back to watch that segment where King George and King Midas make the deal regarding the dragon to make sure.
1b) I really hope the Storybrooke equivalent of Frederick finds Kathryn and they can get together somehow. That would make the inner romantic in me very happy.
2) I'm so glad my suspicions were wrong about Abigail. I was afraid she'd be like the Evil Queen was last week and have an evil ulterior motive behind her actions.
2a) On a more shallow note, I liked her outfit this episode. Not sure why, but it's more flattering on her than the one she wore when she was first introduced.
3) Thank goodness that adultery subplot is pretty much done. Not sure if that's what the writers were going for, but I just felt badly for Kathryn and wanted to throw things at both MM and David. The complete opposite of how I feel about Snow/Charming.
4) Two weeks until the next episode? *sigh*
That's all I can think of.
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Date: 2012-02-21 12:25 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-02-21 02:42 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-02-21 05:31 pm (UTC)I'm still watching this 'confusing' and nerve-wracking show!! :D
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Date: 2012-02-22 04:10 am (UTC)Thank you. I couldn't see well on my TV during the night-time scenes, and so I wasn't 100% sure Frederick was also the coach/gym teacher/guy who went looking for Kathryn at the end. (Okay, he needs a name. I nominate "Froderick" until the show says otherwise.)
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Date: 2012-02-23 05:59 pm (UTC)