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Discussion Questions - Welcome to Storybrooke
Here are my discussion Questions for Welcome to Storybrooke!
1. Second verse same as the first. We now have had our first look at pre-Emma Storybrooke. And it looks A LOT like the one we know from the pilot. It was mostly as I expected though with even more of a Groundhog day effect. Not completely the same but still mostly the same with small variations. How did Regina not go even more mad than she is after 28 years of this? And can anyone doubt that Graham had no free will in Storybrooke? They were all written into their roles.
2. She did get bored quicker than I thought though! It took what, two or three days? She did retain her own free will so who wants to see another flashback at some point that is of her trolling everyone?
3. In my opinion this season has tried to make it clear that Rumpelstiltskin did lose his memory with everyone else. (Or at least establish that he did in fact have Storybrooke memories hence the need for the scarf and potion.) Did his scene in this episode show a man without his FTL memories or not? He seemed to have a much softer/more unguarded look in his eyes and no hint of a smirk.
4. And our first look at the Storybrooke barrier! No one EVER came to Storybrooke since NO ONE could ever see it! Unless they were from FTL stock apparently. When Henry said no one ever came to town he wasn't exaggerating. How could even a delivery truck come to town if no one could see it? Unless Regina was somehow hiding the town when Owen came looking, bringing it from 'can only find if need be' to 'completely invisible.' However I do think it answers the question of whether Storybrooke is a recognized town in Maine. It is not.
5. First Hansel and Gretel. Then Owen. And then Henry. I guess she did learn. The third time she made sure there was no family to deal with. Also, knowing what we know of cursed Storybrooke now, I guess this means that the reason she adopted Henry of all the children in the world was because he was the only the one she could adopt? If outsiders can't find Storybrooke, as seems likely, then it would have to be Henry. (And whatever FTL third party who has been arranging things to bring him.)
6. Do you think Kurt (Owen's father) is still alive? And, if alive, is he still sane? He would have been a prisoner for 30 years if he survived. Not a fate I would wish on anyone.
7. What do you think is Owen's purpose in town? Besides finding out what happened to his father of course.
8. Regina found that curse in her mother's clothing. Was that what Cora planned to do with Regina if Regina hadn't come around and forgiven her? And whose heart would be the person Cora most hated? Rumpelstiltskin perhaps? She loved him but hated him too.
9. So, cursing Cora's heart caused Snow's heart to become blackened. Or least to start the process. She has committed crimes and harmed others in the past but apparently kept her perfectly red heart. What is the difference here? Intent (vengeance)? Use of black magic? The cold and calculated way she fooled Regina?
1. Second verse same as the first. We now have had our first look at pre-Emma Storybrooke. And it looks A LOT like the one we know from the pilot. It was mostly as I expected though with even more of a Groundhog day effect. Not completely the same but still mostly the same with small variations. How did Regina not go even more mad than she is after 28 years of this? And can anyone doubt that Graham had no free will in Storybrooke? They were all written into their roles.
2. She did get bored quicker than I thought though! It took what, two or three days? She did retain her own free will so who wants to see another flashback at some point that is of her trolling everyone?
3. In my opinion this season has tried to make it clear that Rumpelstiltskin did lose his memory with everyone else. (Or at least establish that he did in fact have Storybrooke memories hence the need for the scarf and potion.) Did his scene in this episode show a man without his FTL memories or not? He seemed to have a much softer/more unguarded look in his eyes and no hint of a smirk.
4. And our first look at the Storybrooke barrier! No one EVER came to Storybrooke since NO ONE could ever see it! Unless they were from FTL stock apparently. When Henry said no one ever came to town he wasn't exaggerating. How could even a delivery truck come to town if no one could see it? Unless Regina was somehow hiding the town when Owen came looking, bringing it from 'can only find if need be' to 'completely invisible.' However I do think it answers the question of whether Storybrooke is a recognized town in Maine. It is not.
5. First Hansel and Gretel. Then Owen. And then Henry. I guess she did learn. The third time she made sure there was no family to deal with. Also, knowing what we know of cursed Storybrooke now, I guess this means that the reason she adopted Henry of all the children in the world was because he was the only the one she could adopt? If outsiders can't find Storybrooke, as seems likely, then it would have to be Henry. (And whatever FTL third party who has been arranging things to bring him.)
6. Do you think Kurt (Owen's father) is still alive? And, if alive, is he still sane? He would have been a prisoner for 30 years if he survived. Not a fate I would wish on anyone.
7. What do you think is Owen's purpose in town? Besides finding out what happened to his father of course.
8. Regina found that curse in her mother's clothing. Was that what Cora planned to do with Regina if Regina hadn't come around and forgiven her? And whose heart would be the person Cora most hated? Rumpelstiltskin perhaps? She loved him but hated him too.
9. So, cursing Cora's heart caused Snow's heart to become blackened. Or least to start the process. She has committed crimes and harmed others in the past but apparently kept her perfectly red heart. What is the difference here? Intent (vengeance)? Use of black magic? The cold and calculated way she fooled Regina?
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It baffles me that this is even still a question. It has been established in canon through Rumple's actions AND confirmed by the creators that he didn't have his FTL memories until he heard Emma's name in the Pilot. Hence the weird scroll with her name written on it a million times, and the very cold, controlled person we saw in this episode. THAT was "Mr. Gold." So, yes, he obviously has Storybrooke memories and did not become Rumplestiltskin again until the Pilot. I don't think the man we saw in "Welcome to Storybrooke" would have hunted Regina down at her apple tree and trolled her.
9. So, cursing Cora's heart caused Snow's heart to become blackened. Or least to start the process. She has committed crimes and harmed others in the past but apparently kept her perfectly red heart. What is the difference here? Intent (vengeance)? Use of black magic? The cold and calculated way she fooled Regina?
My headcanon is that it completely has to do with the use of black magic. She used dark magic for a dark deed, hence she darkened her heart. Had she simply hit Cora with an arrow in self-defense, I think Snow's heart would have been fine.
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I don't think the man we saw in "Welcome to Storybrooke" would have hunted Regina down at her apple tree and trolled her.
Completely agree! Once he was himself again he could not WAIT to troll and smirk at Regina.
9. I agree with this too. This was after all, not just black magic, but black magic specifically designed by Cora to blacken her heart. I would be more surprised if it didn't have an effect.
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Finding out what's going on in this strange little town, I suppose. He's seen far too much to just let it be and pay no attention to irrational things like fireballs and ever-young Regina.
And it's possible that Owen and his poor father are not just random ordinary people at the wrong time in the wrong place. They might be a part of the curse too. Owen planted a desire to adopt a child into Regina's heart, and an adopted child finally brought the Saviour to Storybrook. Too perfect to be a coincidence...
Cora was going to stab Rumplestiltskin with his dagger to take his power. I doubt that a heart of an already dead man would work for the curse. Cora desired to turn Snow to evil as an act of revenge to Eva. Surely it involved some hatred from her side. So...Snow's heart could be a cross functional option for both Regina and Cora.
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8. Ah, true. It makes sense that she always planned to stab him with the dagger and Snow, as the daughter of her enemy, would be perfect for the hated heart.
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that scene confused me, because Snow's heart looked just like Graham's and Aurora's and everyone else who has had their heart pulled out...and then the blackness began to spread across Snow's heart.
is it only noticable because this is (we're told) Snow's first foray into Darkness?